No one is immune from life’s difficulties. Yet many people of faith are reluctant to talk about mental health or seek professional help when they are struggling. They often suffer in silence, believing things will get better if only their faith was stronger, they prayed more, or they had more self-discipline.

So, today on the 4:13, worship leader Anthony Evans teams up with licensed therapist Stacy Kaiser to show you what happens when the power of faith intersects with the practicality of therapy.