In this very special BONUS episode of the 4:13 Podcast, I’m sitting on the front porch with my beautiful mom, Judith Jolly. She’s a vibrant 84-year-old who raised me and helped shape who I am today—but more than that, she leaves a lasting impact on everyone she meets.

You’ll hear us talk about the importance of genuine community, how her experiences during World War II shaped her perspective, and the values that stand the test of time. She also shares timeless wisdom on being authentic, taking initiative in forming relationships, loving neighbors and strangers alike, and finding joy in everyday life.